Make Sense of this Quote

Make Sense of this Quote 
FROM P. 310 of Suicide:
First, it implies that collective tendencies and thoughts are of a 
different nature from individual tendencies and thoughts, that the 
former have characteristics which the latter lack (Tïow can this be, it 
is objected, since there are only individuals in society? But, reasoning 
thus, we should have to say that there is nothing more in animate 
nature than inorganic matter, since the cell is made exclusively of 
inanimate atorns^Ç'o be sure, it is likewise true that society has no 
other active forces than individuals; but individuals by combining 
form a psychical existence of a new species, which consequently has 
its own manner of thinking and feeling). Of course the elementary 
qualities of which the social fact consists are present in germ in indi- 
vidual minds. But the social fact emerges from them only when they 
have been transformed by association since it is only then that it ap- 
pears. Association itself is also an active factor productive of special 
effects. In itself it is therefore something new. When the conscious- 
ness of individuals, instead of remaining isolated, becomes grouped 
and combined, something in the world has been altered.

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  • kQ  On January 30, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    Ok, so it was Emile Durkheim who said it, in a book that he wrote about suicide. I believe he is trying to explain the individual tendencies that might drive someone to commit suicide or not and the role that society plays in such association. He uses the analogy of the cells to compare individuals among a society. When he talks about social facts he refers to the internal and external circumstances that might drive individuals to feel that they have an obligation to comply with other individuals in their society because if they don’t, then they will be limited to act in such society. In this case, his book was comparing suicide rates between Catholics and Protestants, and he came up with a number of facts that according to him would make an individual do suicide, things like, being single or having children.

  • jumpinhare-Lyn  On February 3, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Emile Durkheim when he was writing about sucide. After reading it several times

    He speacks of collective(society tendencies are different than individual thoughts and tendencies. He states that society is made up of individuals but once they join forces they take on a new being whcih thinks and behaves differently. Like the above comment I believe he is talking about fitting into society and being transformed and thus becoming part of the association.

  • larson1301  On February 6, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    Durkheim in his book on suicide discusses decision and the tendencies people and societies have. He discusses possibilities that could contribute to making someone commit sucide. Is it nature or nuture? Is their environment or surroundings a contribution to making someone act? Or does it have to do with themselves and their make up? He talks about Catholics and Protestants only when he discusses society’s and one surroundings being a part of suicidal tendencies. Where as he looks at the person’s home life marriage and or kids job when he want to discuss why the individual may act without the environment playing a role.

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